Sony A7R V I Managed To Try the 200–600 + 2x + APS-C Crop on the A7RV

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I've been carrying the 2x TC with me while venturing out with the A7RV and the 200-600.

My hopes were to get a nice bright day with few clouds and some birds in flight. Well, two out of three ain't bad - no birds in sight, and that's probably a good thing - I still need practice!

Very few clouds about, and enough warmth that a Tamar wallaby was lying down.

If you take the 200-600mm and add a 2xTC, you get a zoom that's effectively 400-1200mm, and I have tried that out before. Today I wanted to add the effect of the APS-C crop, taking it up to 500-1800mm effective, and dropping the image size to 6240 x 4160 (26Mpixel).

Neither of the images below is cropped, but both have been scaled to 2000 pixels on the long size so they display at a reasonable speed. Neither of these is a great shot, but I think they make the point.

This is what a Tamar wallaby looks like through that combination - it's difficult to get far enough away!:
Effective1800mm.jpg



If I zoom out to minimum (marked as 200mm on the lens, but effectively 500mm - not far off the 600mm I'd see with the bare 200-600) we see this:
Effective500mm.jpg


Those are hand-held.

I think I'll be using this combination again, but there is one serious issue - it's really hard to hold the 1800mm view steady on a subject! If I was trying to use this to shoot birds in flight, I think a tripod with a gimbal would be called for. And possibly less coffee, more weight training, and a chair!

I must say though, this exercise has given me new respect for the 200-600, which is a better lens than I thought, even at f/13 on the TC.

For those who are curious, the metadata on an image shot at 1800m effective reports the focal length as 1200mm, but the focal length in 35mm film as 1800mm. Fair enough.
 
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Zoom range is 600-1800.

400 x 1.5 = 600.
1200 x 1.5 = 1800.

Very nice results, no one could complain about that. Looks like you got a good 2x.
 
Nice subject and pics, I've never tried the APS-C crop in camera, I tend to crop during editing. I do, however, use the 1.4 and 2x TC's on my 200-600 and find the results very good.


20221128-A1200266.jpg
  • ILCE-1
  • FE 200-600mm F5.6-6.3 G OSS + 2X Teleconverter
  • 1,200.0 mm
  • ƒ/13
  • 1/1000 sec
  • ISO 2500
SON04201.jpg
  • ILCE-7RM4
  • FE 200-600mm F5.6-6.3 G OSS + 1.4X Teleconverter
  • 708.0 mm
  • ƒ/9
  • 1/160 sec
  • ISO 800
 
@Brownie - you are absolutely right - I managed to confuse myself into adding 50% of the un-2x value :) So that second shot has the same field of view as I'd get from the lens without 2x or APS-C.

@Geo C - the one thing that using the APS-C crop in camera does is enlarge the view in the viewfinder - when you are trying to capture an image of something quite small (and preferably still or slow moving!), then using APS-C crop gives you an enlarged view. I normally prefer cropping in post, too.
 
Are you implying that the quality of the teleconverters is not consistent? Just the 2x or both?
Reports from users indicate there is some deviation in copies on the 2x. I've never seen any concerns with the 1.4, but of course they wouldn't be as noticeable. If you buy, get one from a place with a good return policy.
 
Thanks, Tim! (y)

I bought a 2x - only a week ago, but haven't had time to try it (plus the weather here is currently pretty bleak)
I'll do that soon. Hopefully I wont need to put their return policy to the test
 
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